Project Core has Launched. For the next 10 months we will collect your stories and answers to questions. No, this is not a gathering of accounts for a book, film or anything else – only research into paranormal experiences and those who’ve experienced them. It’s an anonymous submitting process, but one that requires raw truth – no matter how odd or unbelievable. This is not exclusively a UFO/alien data collection process – ghosts, PK, ESP, non-human contacts, etc are all sought and welcome.
This is where we start over – and try to get to the Core.
Access the site through this link: Project Core
Until such time as we get an easier URL for the site, you can spread this link far and wide – it’s greatly appreciated.
http://paratopia.org/core/projectcore.html
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
Paratopia Launches Project Core
Paratopia is ambitiously undertaking Project Core, a broad study into all kinds of reported paranormal phenomena. The initiative includes Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, Dr. Kim Cooper and Paratopia personnel Jeff Ritzmann and Jeremy Vaeni. In Jeff's words:
I contributed some of my experiences. Only suggestion I had, that I passed on to Jeremy, was to add a choice for Rh Negative blood types, since, some say, there's a correspondence with witnesses who have Rh Negative blood. (Like myself.) I don't know how valid that is, but it's interesting...
ReplyDeleteRegan, I wouldn't be surprised if RH Negs. show up in higher proportion than in the general population. Why that is, I don't know, but its shown before. I think it was Brad Steiger's old survey that first picked this up.
ReplyDeleteI remember reading some interesting "theories" floating on the internet regarding this - one was that RH Negs. are hybrid descendants of Reptoid-ETs. LOL! I love it!
~ Susan
i commend the thoughtfulness and effort put into this project, and wish it every success.
ReplyDeletehowever, as a person who has experienced a variety of 'medium to high strange experiences' over the last 25+ years, statements such as the following really put me off of participating in the project: "While relaying your experience, please do not include your interpretations. Project Core is about the factual perceptions of your event(s)."
huh? 'factual perceptions'? Who draws the line between 'fact' and 'interpretation', 'fact' and 'perception', who knows how to anyways? i'm especially at a loss of how to interpret (!) that direction as it directly follows: "Do not leave out the unbelievable, the bizarre or the outlandish."
my gut feeling, after watching this field for 40 or so years, is that leaving ANYTHING out will only result in a partial picture. once again. i strongly suspect 'the point' of many paranormal experiences is precisely that - to force, or direct, the experiencer into certain 'interpretations'. after all, a belief you deduced or figured out yourself is the most
tenaciously held.
as usual with these type of surveys, i'll sit this one out. steph
For what it's worth, I submitted my own experiences to the project. I guess we'll wait and see if they manage to yield a large enough sample of data to generate discussion.
ReplyDeleteIt's part of the nature of questionnaires that some folk will conceive of a better design. One or two elements fell short of my expectations, but you can't please everyone.
"...generate discussion."
ReplyDeletei was under the impression they would only release the data to qualified, serious investigators - has this changed? steph
steph wrote: "as usual with these type of surveys, i'll sit this one out. steph" - - -
ReplyDeleteSmart thinking on your part, Steph. In hindsight, over the past few days, I now wish I hadn't taken part. If I could somehow pull my submission out of that internet bin, I would.
steph wrote: "i was under the impression they would only release the data to qualified, serious investigators - has this changed? steph"
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On the CORE site the 'authorities' listed are Dr. Kimball Cooper, Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, Jeffrey Ritzmann and Jeremy Vaeni. I have no idea what the first two know of the subject matter (except Kokjohn's interest in gathering DNA samples from 'aliens'). And the last two have their own experiences and beliefs regarding the subject.
steph wrote:" "statements such as the following really put me off of participating in the project: "While relaying your experience, please do not include your interpretations. Project Core is about the factual perceptions of your event(s)."
>huh? 'factual perceptions'? Who draws the line between 'fact' and 'interpretation', 'fact' and 'perception', who knows how to anyways? i'm especially at a loss of how to interpret (!) that direction as it directly follows: "Do not leave out the unbelievable, the bizarre or the outlandish.""
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Yeah, it doesn't quite make sense.
It makes me wonder, since Whitley Streiber has it up on Unknowncountry [ and has been a guest of J&J...and JV being a guest of Streiber - two mutual softball interviews ;) ] if he'll fill it out personally. Maybe Streiber will share his time-traveling to ancient Rome when he was slave to Octavian (but then he wrote the 'aliens' might have put the thought in his mind, so he'd have to leave out his "interpretation" as well as his "factual perceptions" from CORE). There's always the creepy little man in The Master of the Key (which J&J had no problem swallowing either).
I'll tell ya, if the Master of the Key came into my room, uninvited, the way he did with Streiber; I'd have plenty of 'alien' DNA under my fingernails for Dr. Tyler Kokjohn to investigate. ;^p
~ Susan
"If I could somehow pull my submission out of that internet bin, I would." ah, Brownie, i am sorry to hear that you are feeling this way. i would be interested to hear why, if you feel comfortable.
ReplyDeletemy own reasons have more to do with time and energy - it takes a lot for me to try to convey anything of truth about my own near death experience. Since it seems the questions this survey is trying to address don't have much to do with the ones i am interested in finding out about, and one of the project leaders' philosophy is at odds with the substance of what i experienced, it doesn't seem worth my time and trouble.
at the same time, if these are the burning questions these four want answered, more power to them! (although they do seem to be duplicating some previous studies.) it's interesting that you mention biases - my opinion is that new ways to deal with our unavoidable bias would be much more useful in moving us forward than simply collecting more data. i feel strongly that we need new, better QUESTIONS more than anything else in this field.
yeah, the Master of the Key ..... i've had enuf strange experiences that i can't discount it. but i didn't see any unprecedented truths in that manuscript, either.
again, i truly wish the project the greatest success. it's just oriented towards finding out things i'm not that interested in.
Thank you Brownie! I hope you all are having a great week!! steph
tinyjunco, hi steph! I received your p.m. in the other place. I'll get back to you via email.
ReplyDeleteI think the Master of the Key, if he was real, was likely human...not an 'alien' or a 'hybrid'.
But the cynic in me suspects the Master resides in Streiber's richly imaginative mind. ;-)
That isn't to say that I think all he's written are fabrications. I do believe much of his Communion book and some of The Secret School book (well, except for the time-traveling bits).
~ Susan
Project Core - Setting the Stage:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSPk0sePCcI
The latest from Jeffrey Ritzmann of what will be done with the information gathered from Project CORE:
ReplyDeleteRe: Teardrop at both ends
« Reply #99 on Oct 14, 2011, 5:58pm »
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To further expand on Jeremy's post - No raw data will be released as that's the whole point in our descriptive intro: it won't be used in a book, film, or any other enterprise. To disseminate it, means to release it into public domain and have it on folk's websites where they can run ads and capitalize on it in any number of ways.
That's not happening. I made that abundantly clear on the ATSLive show this past weekend, and on the CORE site.
Individual researchers who bring skill sets to the table are another matter. The public at large, no.
We will be talking about accounts and in many ways referencing those accounts in our Phase 1 wrap up.
As far as the "die hard believers" and "lunatic fringes"...all that has been considered. « Last Edit: Oct 14, 2011, 5:58pm by Jeff Ritzmann »
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