The career intelligence officer led soldiers at every level of duty on his way to serving as Commanding General of the US Army Intelligence School and Center. It was there he secured his spot in the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame when he completely redesigned the intelligence structure of the entire United States Army.
General Stubblebine has been around the block. He has also long been of interest to the paranormal community.
Delving deeply into such topics as psychic phenomena and neuro-linguistic programming, Stubblebine was prominently featured in such works as Jon Ronson's The Men Who Stare at Goats. The general's significant involvement in remote viewing research funded by the Central Intelligence Agency no doubt contributed to his public mystique. It was his involvement in such projects and his interests in ufology that apparently led to his marriage of Dr. Rima Laibow.
Laibow seemed to have shared the general's interest in the UFO community during the late 1980's and into the 1990's. The doctor authored papers on the abduction phenomenon and became significantly involved in related activities at several levels, including interacting with abductees and organizing a now-disbanded group, Treatment and Research of Experienced Anomalous Trauma, or TREAT.
Natural Solutions Foundation
More recent years have seen Major General Stubblebine and Dr. Laibow operating the Natural Solutions Foundation, a nonprofit organization they co-founded in 2004. The mission of the Foundation is "to discover, develop, document, demonstrate and disseminate natural solutions to the problems facing us and threatening our health and food freedom."
"I am not now and have never been associated with the CIA," stated Laibow.
"Natural Solutions Foundation is so effective in our opposition to the Powers That Be," she claimed, "that a serious attempt was apparently made on my life a year ago."
General Stubblebine commented, "I have never had any connection, part in, knowledge about or dealings with the mind control program," adding that he was never read into any such program. While acknowledging he held extensive security clearances and his operational commander was none other than the Deputy Director of the CIA, the general pointed out access to mind control projects was on a needs to know basis, stated he served in strategic intelligence and claimed he therefore lacked any need to know.
Interestingly, however, Stubblebine additionally stated he thought mind control operations had been stopped following Congressional demands - until he "met Dr. Rima in 1991." Laibow offered further comment on the implications of the statement on the Natural Solutions Foundation website.
Attempts were made by The UFO Trail to obtain further details and clarification from Dr. Laibow and General Stubblebine about the above statements posted on the Natural Solutions Foundation website. Multiple emails were sent to different email addresses in which permission was requested to inquire further and no replies were received.
More Talk of Ongoing and UFO-Related Mind Control
Whatever we may make of it, career intelligence officer Commander C.B. Scott Jones, US Navy, Retired, recently made similar statements to The UFO Trail. A series of email exchanges occurred in which statements by Jones were discussed concerning allegations the FBI targeted writer/researcher Michael Drosnin with an incapacitating electronic mind control device, and that Jones alerted Dr. John Gibbons, then-science advisor to President Clinton, of the circumstances.
"There are reasons to believe that some government group has interwoven research about this (mind control) technology with alleged UFO phenomena," Jones informed Gibbons.
"If that is correct, you can expect to run into early resistance when inquiring about UFOs, not because of the UFO subject, but because that has been used to cloak research and applications of mind-control activity.”
"It has been particularly effective," Jones added, "when there is a presumed close relationship between what is trying to be protected and assumptions about characteristics associated with UFOs and ETs."
All Along the Watchtower
For those unaware, please allow me to point out a potentially huge problem with relying on intelligence officers as sources of information: Relying on intelligence officers as sources of information.
With all due respect rightfully offered to those who have not yet abused the offer, and due respect most certainly extended to decorated and esteemed officers of the armed forces, we are always going to come back around to considering we either have an established fact or we do not. Whether we are talking alien abduction, mind control operations, breath-taking craft soaring across the heavens or anything else, assertions are either verified as facts or they are not.
There is nothing whatsoever wrong with speculation and supposition, but the objective researcher and sincere seeker of truth responsibly differentiates between fact and opinion. Sincerity does not court selective citation or selective omission of information, and those who practice sincerity understand we must suspend judgment pending verification of information, no matter how seductive the temptation may be to prematurely draw conclusions.
If we adhere to such principles and methods of establishing accuracy, we need not discriminate in the evaluation of information based upon such factors as whether the information is offered by a military officer, civilian scientist, self-described abductee, self-described involuntary research subject or anyone else. We need not concern ourselves whether the information supports or opposes our preferred points of view. All we must be concerned about is whether or not we can verify the information and, if not, suspend judgment, recognizing such information as a claim or opinion until such time as it may be conclusively either established as fact or discarded as inaccurate.
Intelligence personnel have a long history of playing a shell game from one project to another. While mind control operations largely escaped public awareness altogether, even less people know that in addition to MKULTRA and its 149 sub-projects, many more similar such projects existed. Other known projects included MKNAOMI, MKACTION, MKSEARCH, ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, QKHILLTOP, DERBY HAT and PANDORA, to name a few, details of which are often incomplete and elusive. So while personnel might accurately state they were not involved in mind control operations, they may very well have been extensively involved in any number of projects of varying titles and falling under such technical classifications as 'behavior modification,' not literally 'mind control.'
Somebody designed, directed and staffed all those mind control projects. The decades long existence of such operations is established; no suspension of judgment is required.
While many of the statements provided by intelligence personnel do not allow us to form conclusions, perhaps there is another point equally, if not more, currently relevant than the implications directly contained in their statements: The fact intelligence personnel ever publicly discussed mind control in the context of the UFO phenomenon at all.
The very fact it is on the table, for whatever ultimate combinations of reasons, should thoroughly interest the UFO community, particularly sincere seekers of truth. I would very much appreciate an opportunity to discuss the issues with Major General Stubblebine and/or Dr. Laibow, hopefully clarifying and obtaining details that shed more light on their claims of post-MKULTRA mind control operations.
I would also appreciate discussing such matters with any individuals who feel they have relevant information to share. Privacy and confidentiality are highly respected. My email address may be obtained through my blogger profile. I want to hear from you.