tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post8298246706872466333..comments2024-02-26T03:03:24.947-05:00Comments on The UFO Trail: Army Cold War Chemical Research ReportJack Brewerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-10914452254187696422017-01-24T22:46:21.443-05:002017-01-24T22:46:21.443-05:00Hey, Sue, and thanks for the references! Much appr...Hey, Sue, and thanks for the references! Much appreciated.<br /><br />You wrote, "Even today in the US we think of mind control as being aimed at the individual and involving technology, discounting the role of social affiliations and psychological dynamics."<br /><br />Where to begin, huh?! It takes all of about two minutes trying to discuss varying perspectives with an overly opinionated individual in order to observe the unflinching power of peer pressure and conditioned behavior.<br /><br />Roger Tolces, an LA-based private detective and electronics countermeasures expert, once said something to the effect the greatest mind control device ever invented was the television. I think the pen will always be mightier than the sword because it's so much less feared and less understood. <br /><br />That's a salient point you made, Sue. Cheers. Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-51434883550020774592017-01-24T01:59:31.122-05:002017-01-24T01:59:31.122-05:00“Particular emphasis is given to the importance of...“Particular emphasis is given to the importance of Russian advances in the field. Historians and researchers will correlate the reference with American justifications for behavior modification, or mind control, projects.”<br /><br />“Interestingly, the Army IG took the justification a bit further than simply blaming states hostile to U.S. interests, and suggested the Army was placed in a no-win situation by the American press: The media, the IG argued, covered and repeatedly emphasized the Russian threat of chemical warfare to such an extent the Army was criticized for not taking strong enough defensive action and later criticized for action it took.”<br /><br />Russia initially beat the US in the space by launching Sputnik. Brainwashing was painted in popular magazines like the New Yorker as a “psychological Sputnik” that could create Manchurian candidates out of otherwise loyal Americans. It was a putative technology that conveniently explained false confessions given by American POWs in the Korean and Vietnamese wars.<br /><br />The US Army assigned several researchers to study American POWs and nationals in various prison camps. Robert Lifton’s Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism and Edgar Schein’s Coercive Persuasion are two important published products of this early research effort. Lifton and Schein found that social psychological, social structural and ideological manipulation strategies were crucial parts of the “brainwashing” process popularly attributed to some new, secret Russian technology. Whereas brainwashing was generally the sudden result of some chemical or medical means, thought reform was slower and required more than captivity as a social structure to be successful.<br /><br />Albert Biderman, another military researcher, went into more detail about what American soldiers actually underwent compared to how their experience was portrayed by journalists like Eugene Kinkead, who wrote the New Yorker piece about weak-willed American POWs. If memory serves, Biderman considered ‘brainwashing’ to be a simplistic notion put forward by Kinkead, an OSS operative, for the political comfort of the effete New Yorker readership or possibly under other direction.<br /><br />But brainwashing definitely took hold as an explanation separate from and vitiating against more complex, nuanced social and psychological models of situations of extreme coercion. From its get-go in the 1950s, the notion of brainwashing as some advanced Russian/communist/alien technology was supposed to be the real danger for those who didn’t face real danger. Meanwhile, American POWs and nationals in prison camps in China, Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were undergoing politically expedient human rights atrocities that went unrecognized because they didn’t have a politically hip label. Even today in the US we think of mind control as being aimed at the individual and involving technology, discounting the role of social affiliations and psychological dynamics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15076446425793719754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-63934614963126995862017-01-21T13:20:53.892-05:002017-01-21T13:20:53.892-05:00Like you, manuel, I'm having trouble getting f...Like you, manuel, I'm having trouble getting fired up about the latest publication. If I understand correctly, it's not declassification but accessibility: already declassified docs were made available online. I'm finding a few things of interest, but I'd much rather the PTB simply address my still-pending FOIA requests. I've got a couple more in mind, as well, and initial searches through the CREST don't offer any related info. Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-49040810471057688202017-01-21T00:53:18.906-05:002017-01-21T00:53:18.906-05:00By now you are prob buried in this stuff their lat...By now you are prob buried in this stuff their latest release <br />https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/crest-25-year-program-archive<br /><br />Truth be told..I'm give out<br />Cheersmanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021585280355713590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-34118845279083807932017-01-10T19:47:24.520-05:002017-01-10T19:47:24.520-05:00I am shocked that the 17 Intelligence agencies cou...I am shocked that the 17 Intelligence agencies could not come up with anything better than this<br />http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/here-full-35-page-report-alleging-trump-was-cultivated-supported-and-assisted-russia#comment-8776272<br />considering their collective credibility is on the line and what we know from the Aviary and Jtrig and that they are about to be re shuffled and some of the stuff described here exposed. I am sure they have shredded any evidence as they disappeared several gigabytes of data on the Torture program. What would be truly frightening that they did all this knowing results and did it because there really are socio paths in these positions that actually enjoy doing this under the thin veneer of science exploration. I wonder what they got from Sadams program..which was systemic and who wrote a book with the best procedures for torture.<br />I know you have been watching the last airport incident..penny for your thoughts :)manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021585280355713590noreply@blogger.com