tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post6222964015814811781..comments2024-02-26T03:03:24.947-05:00Comments on The UFO Trail: The Leah Haley Case: Springfield, St. Louis and on to Gulf BreezeJack Brewerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-8066084632164445492012-05-17T19:48:16.322-04:002012-05-17T19:48:16.322-04:00LilyPat, Why do you think humans (MILABS) would fi...LilyPat, Why do you think humans (MILABS) would fiddle with your ovaries? And do you have medical documentation on the scarred ovaries and the high doses of ionizing radiation? This might help the work of people like Jack.<br /><br />Why do you think people (even an OSS officer from your family) tagged you from an early age to fake alien abductions upon? Any ideas on what the end-game of it is?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-45277888489607623032012-05-17T11:55:25.952-04:002012-05-17T11:55:25.952-04:00"The same sort of "trauma-based" bo..."The same sort of "trauma-based" bogus intel alien abduction hypno-charlatans pump out."<br /><br />I couldn't let this pass, since I'm one of those people who endured years of military-involved abductions here in Oakland CA, right up until the big bases were closed. And there very definitely were traumas involved and faux alien scenarios staged for my benefit. But my memories were NOT derived via hypnosis nor while under the influence of biased therapists. And the intel-connected individuals in my life, from early childhood (OSS officer in the family) to the MILAB years when I lived in a condo with a scientist at a national laboratory as a neighbor), were in no way imaginary or bogus. <br /><br />Doctors have asked me when and where I was exposed to very high doses of ionizing radiation, I have mysteriously scarred ovaries and DID/MPD. And I was one person who talked privately to Leah Haley years ago at a local UFO convention and urged her to pursue the memories she was retrieving of having been victimized by human beings, not aliens...I suspect there were others like me in the UFO community who were beginning to wake up and approached her too. Even if most of the people being misled into believing that they were in trauma-based mind control programs and interacted with aliens never were, there are a few of us still around who've been interfered with most of our lives.LilyPatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-20323408318160354242012-02-25T10:32:51.414-05:002012-02-25T10:32:51.414-05:00No military abductions?
Here's some evidence...No military abductions? <br /><br />Here's some evidence. Two words. First word. Watch my hands. Extraordinary.<br /><br />Second word. Rendition. <br /><br />I suppose Bagram Air Force Base is a hallucination. Night raids must merely be General McCrystal's bed checks. Admitted. No proof alien freaks are involved. Just good old fashioned American paranoia. Military tech used to hike goatherders to black sites and waterboard their islamic butts into bogus intel. <br /><br />The same sort of "trauma-based" bogus intel alien abduction hypno-charlatans pump out.<br /><br />Their "Aliens" don't exist. But let's not fantasize that military abductions don't exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-55681318615997814162012-02-18T23:40:09.915-05:002012-02-18T23:40:09.915-05:00Thanks for the heads up on the article, Jeff. I ce...Thanks for the heads up on the article, Jeff. I certainly understand your interest.<br /><br />The Nine... what a pile, high and wide, yet a very good piece of research and documentation of intel involvement in ufology.<br /><br />Also, the authors, Lyn Picknett and Clive Prince, are right on target with Edgewood/MKULTRA > SRI/RV.<br /><br />Quoted below was my favorite part. Sometimes, the more we try to present details, the more lost people get and/or the more they ask if 'the soup had rice in it,' so to speak and ala Seinfeld. I therefore appreciate the direct simplicity of the passage below, backed up by the details that followed in the rest of the article:<br /><br />"The ETH has become so dominant partly because the Magonian approach challenges our cherished consensus reality so outrageously, whereas the concept of space ships from other planets doesn’t. Also, high-profile cases such as Roswell, Area 51 and Majestic 12 – all firmly based on the ET interpretation and centred on government conspiracies and cover-ups – came to dominate Ufology in the 1980s. But paradoxically they derive from the very agencies allegedly behind the conspiracy. In fact, trace any famous case back to its source and you will find that one way or another it originated within the military and intelligence community.<br /><br />"(It always amazes us that Ufologists often obey the unwritten rule: never believe anything that anyone in government, the military or the intelligence community tells you – unless it’s that UFOs are real ETs in secret contact with world authorities. Then believe everything they tell you…)<br /><br />"In fact, far from trying to cover up the existence of UFOs, government agencies have actively encouraged belief in them – specifically the ETH. Our own research has convinced us that this ‘Federal Hypothesis’ is the most accurate, and indeed there is a groundswell of similar opinion, as seen in Mark Pilkington’s recent Mirage Men and Lynn’s Mammoth Book of UFOs (2001). It does seem the whole UFO thing has been exploited – maybe even invented – to provide a convenient cover for all sorts of black ops, from testing secret aircraft to psychological warfare experiments. Even this, however, barely scrapes the surface of the sinister goings-on associated with over six decades of UFO research."<br /><br />http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/behind-the-mask-aliens-or-cosmic-jokersJack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-41679660690912545332012-02-16T01:21:43.895-05:002012-02-16T01:21:43.895-05:00Hello Jeff,
Unfortunately most ufologists [like t...Hello Jeff,<br /><br />Unfortunately most ufologists [like the men and women one reads on the tedious UFO Updates List] still ascribe to the ETH while dismissing (or ignoring) the works of Keel, Sanderson, Michel and Vallee who several decades ago suspected something else - in a sense far more disturbing than ETs. <br /><br />I think John Keel stated it best (and he wasn't a practicing Christian) - "Ufology is just another name for demonology". He also stated he didn't think of himself as a "ufologist" but a "demonologist". <br /><br />Keel warned off educators and parents from encouraging teens and children who took an interest to do projects on UFOs and contacts. He warned off people from staring at the lights from UFOs because of their mezmerizing and amnesiac effects. [Keel's wise warnings made me think of how irresponsible Leah Haley is for writing and selling a children's book about friendly alien abductions of children. - 'Ceto's New Friends'...good grief!]<br /><br />Where does the intelligence behind ufos and aliens originate from? As a close encounter experiencer, I still don't know and I don't think any of us do (excluding the obvious hoaxes or mistaken reports).<br /><br />However, I do think a revealing account from an abductee, reported in 'Missing Time'(Hopkins), may give a hint at an answer (the meaning probably went over Hopkins ETH believing head, though he did have the good sense to include the exchange in the book). The man asked a 'grey' entity, who had abducted him into a huge triangle-shaped object (when he was driving home from work), where they came from and the telepathic answer was: "From here, but we can't stay here". It doesn't get more Magonian/Extradimensional/Cryptoterrestrial than that.<br /><br />~ Susan BrownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-3535535698222369812012-02-15T16:10:24.028-05:002012-02-15T16:10:24.028-05:00Thanks, Jeff! I will definitely check it out.Thanks, Jeff! I will definitely check it out.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-28285265111465408562012-02-15T16:01:01.778-05:002012-02-15T16:01:01.778-05:00Jack,
Been reading a researching a good deal today...Jack,<br />Been reading a researching a good deal today when I came across this relevant article. You may have already read it, but of not, it's excellent. All kinds of very interesting cross references and extremely pertinent history with respect to the ELITE/WEALTHY propagation of the paranormal meets the ETH at the major behest of mind control central. Anyone interested in the historic nature of that which led up to the mass propagation of the Abduction Phenomenon, will find this fascinating.<br /><br />http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/behind-the-mask-aliens-or-cosmic-jokersJeff Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07710348920752833713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-87905248148769660412012-02-15T11:54:12.794-05:002012-02-15T11:54:12.794-05:00You are most welcome, Emma. Thank you very much fo...You are most welcome, Emma. Thank you very much for your interest and comments.<br /><br />You may very well be correct there is a real anomalous phenomenon. I am of course not qualified to conclusively say one way or the other. I tend to tentatively agree with you, if for no better reason than it is a given there is much more to be learned about our minds and environments than has yet been fully understood.<br /><br />I most certainly agree with you that Ms. Haley is brave. I have developed respect for her and learned a number of beneficial things from observing the manners she conducts her affairs.<br /><br />Emma, I continue to sincerely believe the actions you and Ms. Rainey took are the most significant and potentially beneficial events to have ever occurred within supposed abduction research. Bravery, indeed.<br /><br />My personal opinion is that were it not for cultural manipulation as instigated by any number of potential sources and carried out through television, theater, books, MUFON, the UFO community at large, etc., we would have an entirely different prevailing perspective of what came to be known as the UFO phenomenon. One way or the other, it is quite clear to me we have been conditioned to believe in aliens. I very much respect and support those who have the courage to accept they have been duped, and that the truth will be found in numerous alternative explanations which may sometimes include anomalous circumstances or even non-human beings. We just don't know, but we would indeed be well advised to inventory what we truly know as comnpared to what we have been conditioned to believe.<br /><br />Thank you again for your interest and comments, Emma. I continue to wish you the highest degree of success in your activism, and please do not hesitate to let me know if or when I may be of assistance.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-61358806891978048412012-02-15T03:31:08.362-05:002012-02-15T03:31:08.362-05:00Thank you for another fascinating post on Leah Hal...Thank you for another fascinating post on Leah Haley's case. I personally believe that there is a real anomalous phenomenon behind many people's experiences, including my own. However, I think that it is important to question everything, as no one really knows all the answers. I think that it is brave of Ms. Haley to do so publically in the way that she has.Emma@ufoalienabductee.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14076721533781402095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-14107653794313899582012-02-15T03:25:49.178-05:002012-02-15T03:25:49.178-05:00Carol Rainey has presented film evidence backing u...Carol Rainey has presented film evidence backing up her concerns about Budd Hopkins' research. She has also said that she made it public after finding out about David Jacobs' abusive research practices. It galvanized her into doing something about it, whereas before she had not wanted to rock the boat because of the personal relationships involved. But at that stage she felt like she had to do something. So, your characterization of her motives is unfounded. <br /><br />Ms. Rainey never denied that Mr. Hopkins was terminally ill. There was a period when Mr. Hopkins' supporters claimed that he could not respond to the evidence that she had made public about his methodology because he was too ill. However, he was in fact up and about, going to the store and so on. His supporters were simply wrong about that. Mr. Hopkins subsequently did respond, proving that himself.Emma@ufoalienabductee.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14076721533781402095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-76202535125475433202012-02-14T12:10:57.888-05:002012-02-14T12:10:57.888-05:00To GetReal,
Carol Rainey had been divorced from ...To GetReal, <br /><br />Carol Rainey had been divorced from Hopkins for some time. I don't think she's a "spurned woman with an agenda". However at some point she should (and probably will) explain how she came to later co-author with her then husband Budd Hopkins, one of, if not the best abduction related book on the objective reality of ufos and as Carol and Budd coined the term - "transgenic beings"-> 'Sight Unseen: Science, UFO Invisibility and Transgenic Beings (2003)' This book was written several years after Carol filmed the skeptical rough cuts of Linda Napolitano (the controversial subject of Hopkins book - 'Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO Abductions (1996)'). So clearly, Carol did not walk away from the subject and wasn't (nor is now) a debunker.<br /><br />Having pointed all that out, I do suspect that Linda Napolitano hoaxed Budd Hopkins. The published critique of the Napolitano case by Stefula, Butler and Hansen(1992) debunked the case thoroughly and misgivings about the case were being rumored in ufo circles for several years right through the publication of 'Witnessed'. When I read 'Witnessed' it wasn't on par with Hopkins two earlier books - 'Missing Time' and 'Intruders at Copley Woods' to say the least. It read like one hot convoluted, soap-operaish mess. <br /><br />~ Susan BrownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-43257933414851389312012-02-13T21:05:02.142-05:002012-02-13T21:05:02.142-05:00Jeff Davis wrote, "So far in this thread insp...Jeff Davis wrote, "So far in this thread inspired by Jack's EXCELLENT post, there has NOT been a single instance of real rebuttal, or even a minor correction for that matter."<br /><br />Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate your interest and support. I frequently find your comments relevant and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-59523207432205559352012-02-13T16:13:36.147-05:002012-02-13T16:13:36.147-05:00Chris, John & G.R.
So, Ufology is committing ...Chris, John & G.R.<br /><br />So, Ufology is committing suicide because why exactly? Maybe because many do not agree with you, perhaps? <br /><br />So far in this thread inspired by Jack's EXCELLENT post, there has NOT been a single instance of real rebuttal, or even a minor correction for that matter. <br /><br />Did I miss something here?<br /><br />John, please state specifically that which you have referred to here as claims that are nonsense? Love to see one.<br /><br />@Chris<br />Got ANY substantiation, validation, for ANY aspect of the elusive companion hypothesis? Anything other than opinion? I didn't think so.<br /><br />Alternate perspectives are RARELY the cause for suicide or mass extinction.<br /><br />How long have ALL OF US been waiting for to take a test ride in a flying saucer? Where's the evidence? A good deal of us bought that one hook, line, and sinker, even further back than the long overdue nonlethal weaponry you've been waiting for a demo of.<br /><br />I have NO problem seriously considering the abduction phenomena as only containing a human element. I also have NO problem considering the matter at face value according to the abductee. What I do however have a SERIOUS problem with is, knowing the truth of the matter, because neither you, nor I, do.Jeff Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07710348920752833713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-60371888321220062162012-02-13T12:07:44.662-05:002012-02-13T12:07:44.662-05:00Lieutenant Colonel Ware, Reid was most certainly q...Lieutenant Colonel Ware, Reid was most certainly quite involved with MUFON. The August, 1990, MUFON Journal, Director's Message written by Walt Andrus, stated:<br /><br />"Two very important vacancies on the Board of Directors were filled at the annual MUFON Board of Directors Meeting on July 8, 1990 in Pensacola, Florida. It is a pleasure to announce that Robert E. Reid, Col. USAF Retired, residing in Fort Walton Beach, Fla, has accepted the position of director of publications."<br /><br />Read more at:<br /><br />http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1990/August_1990.pdfJack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-30886594946076021622012-02-13T09:48:23.167-05:002012-02-13T09:48:23.167-05:00Colonel Robert Reid was never a member of MUFON, t...Colonel Robert Reid was never a member of MUFON, though he remains an excellent investigator and researcher. My recollection concernning dates is that Haley told me she and her husband were in the Colunbus, MS hotel room, where she recalls being returned following the incident on the beach, several days from 5 to 11 Aug 88. The Joint Ghiefs special meeting at Pensacola was 21 Aug 88. We investigators did find evidence of another similar alien vehicle being recovered in the Gulf Breeze area in February 1988. More unusual incidents outlined at freewebs dot com slash donware.Donald Warenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-85297030189686896822012-02-12T01:10:58.437-05:002012-02-12T01:10:58.437-05:00Excellent comments Christopher. All of these claim...Excellent comments Christopher. All of these claims should be called out, as most of them are just nonsense.John Maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09625109964701487548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-68959721801100109322012-02-10T21:39:44.775-05:002012-02-10T21:39:44.775-05:00Love how the blog slanders the late Budd Hopkins w...Love how the blog slanders the late Budd Hopkins while using the tired material of a spurned woman with an agenda. I should also mention this is the same woman who denied Hopkins was terminally ill. Kudos! This is sarcasm by the way.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-69131460760056645662012-02-10T14:03:22.819-05:002012-02-10T14:03:22.819-05:00Those are very legitimate concerns, Christopher, a...Those are very legitimate concerns, Christopher, and I highly encourage you to continue to demand direct evidence if conclusions are asserted. I trust you promote the same standards on other issues. I address such concerns at length in any number of posts, but please note - and I will emphasize once more - I am not claiming to present conclusive evidence; I am presenting circumstances for consideration that I think justify further research.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-1278477671592676502012-02-10T13:48:51.212-05:002012-02-10T13:48:51.212-05:00There's no controversy over human experimentat...There's no controversy over human experimentation and MK Ultra and the like- I'm asking for a single shred of evidence for a military abduction carried out to pass as an alien abduction. The whole idea makes no sense given the fact that the military has had unfettered access to millions of virtual slaves in their own ranks, has never shown any reluctance to experiment on them, and has traditionally had access to state hospitals, shelters and so on.The Secret Sunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676425268231171924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-7953378948896215112012-02-09T21:30:36.545-05:002012-02-09T21:30:36.545-05:00Hi, Christopher:
It is my understanding that no c...Hi, Christopher:<br /><br />It is my understanding that no criminal charges have been filed against perpetrators participating in covert research projects in which involuntary human research subjects were abused because, basically, it is not against the law. I am under the interpretation that neither individuals nor agencies may be held criminally responsible for activities that may be defined as matters of national security. As I understand it, that is why no criminal charges were ever filed related to Project MKULTRA or the human radiation experiments, for examples. John Glenn and others unsuccessfully tried to pass legislation making such state-sponsored projects illegal, but no such laws have yet been passed, to the best of my knowledge.<br /><br />Civil suits have been filed, however, and many judgments have been made in favor of the plaintiffs. One such circumstance is the class action lawsuits resulting from the abusive experiments conducted at Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal. <br /><br />Another more interesting circumstance involved James Walbert enrolling the help of then-Representative James Guest in convincing a Kansas court that he and his family were electronically harassed by a former business partner. Guest was an outspoken victims advocate, lobbying against RFID chips and non-lethal weapons.<br /><br />Yet another suit involves Vietnam Veterans of America versus CIA, et al. This is a current civil case in which the abuse of involuntary human research subjects, particularly involving mind control research, is cited in order to try to obtain medical treatment for victims, among other damages which do not include financial compensation. The Agency does not particularly dispute the circumstances but denies it has any continuing responsibility in quality of life of the former misled research subjects.<br /><br />I read your piece on Blue Beam, Christopher. I very much agree we should all be careful when citing sources and asserting supposed facts. I completely agree with you that disinformation is rampant and covers virtually all topics within ufology from one angle or another. As a matter of fact, I would go as far as to say if we removed the disinfo, lies, hoaxes, exaggerations and so on, there would be very, very little left.<br /><br />If anyone would like references or to read more about legal cases and circumstances cited above, please see the two-part post, Lawmakers and Involuntary Human Research Subjects, February, 2010. Part one may be viewed at:<br /><br />http://www.ufotrail.blogspot.com/2011/02/lawmakers-and-involuntary-human.htmlJack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-57080229335421463812012-02-08T20:49:45.825-05:002012-02-08T20:49:45.825-05:00Thank you very much, Jack. Please read my post on ...Thank you very much, Jack. Please read my post on Project Blue Beam there because I think it very much applies to what we're seeing here. Leah very much sounds like she's in the Blue Beam camp. People in the alt-research community have been swallowing the same old stories of tech that never, ever appears sometimes 40 years after it's bandied about. And for an earthbound phenomenon like MILABs we should be seeing some real evidence and some legal action and I haven't seen a lick of either. I've been a DARPA watcher for very many years and I've come to the conclusion that they shoot off phony patents and press releases as soon as they finish that months copy of Green Lantern.<br /> <br />What I am advocating is that caution cut both ways because the disinfo does. And remember that science isn't sorcery- more technology than most people realize exists on paper and nowhere else.The Secret Sunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676425268231171924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-47697230942397195802012-02-08T20:25:06.613-05:002012-02-08T20:25:06.613-05:00Hello Christopher Knowles:
If you wish to have a ...Hello Christopher Knowles:<br /><br />If you wish to have a dispute taken seriously of the evolution of non-lethal weapons technology as I referenced, it would be necessary for you to cite more than your opinion. I will explain further.<br /><br />I cited the work of Dr. Robert Becker. Specifically, Becker's book, “The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life,” which documented the work of Dr. Joseph Sharp, in which analog microwave pulses were used to successfully transfer an otherwise inaudible word into the human brain. <br /><br />Such is a reference recognized by the professional research community. A competent rebuttal must therefore cite a source defined as credible and negating the reality of the work of Sharp as presented by Becker. Please feel encouraged to provide any such rebuttal and credible supporting materials concerning any of the circumstances cited on this blog.<br /><br />If interested, Project Censored (projectcensored.org), a program supported by Sonoma State University of California, has some very useful reference materials on non-lethal weapons research and development. “US Electromagnetic Weapons and Human Rights,” by Peter Phillips, Lew Brown and Bridget Thornton, extensively explored such R&D as well as issues related to involuntary human research subjects:<br /><br />http://www.projectcensored.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ElectromegnaticWeapons.pdf<br /><br />All of that stated, please allow me to re-emphasize I am not claiming to present conclusions about the Leah Haley Case. I do not claim to have conducted a thorough (much less scientific) investigation and, as I have stated again and again, I am only presenting circumstances I think deserve further consideration. <br /><br />I actually think the work of Sharp is relatively inconsequential, if related whatsoever, to some of the more central issues of Haley's story. However and as explained, more information is required to discount the reality of Sharp's state-sponsored work than opinion provides. <br /><br />By the way, I think the popularity of your blogs is very impressive. I viewed your profile and must agree with some of your movie selections. Some of the films listed were indeed quite brilliant works.<br /><br />Best wishes with your ufology and artistic endeavors. I wish you well with your projects.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-40646469033766897062012-02-07T21:29:25.618-05:002012-02-07T21:29:25.618-05:00Make of it what you will? OK, it's all nonsens...Make of it what you will? OK, it's all nonsense. I've been hearing about all this kind of technology and we continue to hear about voice to skull tech and mind reading and all of the rest of it and hear how it's right around the corner and not one single testable example of it in the field. Any company would want to take this stuff to market for the hearing impaired and yet.... nothing. No mass hysteria among the mujahadeen hearing the voice of the Prophet (peace be upon him) in the various military conflicts.<br /><br /><br />UFOlogy has decided to consume itself- to commit suicide. I'm seeing it everywhere these days. That's fine, but just because someone files a patent doesn't mean their idea ever worked. Disinformation cuts both ways, in fact it usually cuts this way most often.The Secret Sunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676425268231171924noreply@blogger.com