tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post759178427587866267..comments2024-02-26T03:03:24.947-05:00Comments on The UFO Trail: Sincerity Is Not Synonymous with AccuracyJack Brewerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-69001633852064920372020-01-15T01:46:53.963-05:002020-01-15T01:46:53.963-05:00good question - yet more from these murky waters …...good question - yet more from these murky waters ….<br /><br />J15/1:45 ammouseonmoon mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920006114625021133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-76389107444170402052020-01-14T22:59:04.252-05:002020-01-14T22:59:04.252-05:00Googled and listened to it today. I wonder if he ...Googled and listened to it today. I wonder if he (Novel) knew Fred Crisman? Seems like they were hanging around some of the same people in Louisiana during the 60s...Adam S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11934830683869908953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-86637381715678754942020-01-11T15:49:59.102-05:002020-01-11T15:49:59.102-05:00Novel and Bigelow were ‘friends’- and obviously in...<br />Novel and Bigelow were ‘friends’- and obviously in the circle of the Col and his wife.<br />For a truly ‘revealing’ side of Gordon check out the long interview with Kerry Cassidy (hour and a half ! and curiously if you search for it at YouTube re - Gordon Novel -it doesn’t come up ?)<br /> try > Project Camelot interviews Gordon Novel - YouTube Nov 15, 2007 -<br /> original interview Dec ’06<br /><br />U can read all sorts of things about everyone ( even what they’ve written), but actually seeing and hearing them will often change your perspective quite a bit.<br /><br />Around every corner is a surprise .<br /> Like the guitar player said about Bob Dylan,<br />“He’s not like us.”<br /><br />Most of France is filled with aliens !mouseonmoon mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920006114625021133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-91864299170483110242020-01-11T02:43:57.948-05:002020-01-11T02:43:57.948-05:00Well stated mouseonmoon....and indeed before Bigel...Well stated mouseonmoon....and indeed before Bigelow there was a Rockefeller (Laurence maybe?)...<br /><br />Perhaps it is all just one big understanding, perhaps a certain Col just recognized that a funding opportunity presented itself. Perhaps, as a former program manager of a certain program, he recognized the similarities in what was being developed and what the UFO abductees were reporting. But, he knew it wasn't anyone in his program and his superiors thought it was ludicrous to "officially" check out. So, hey, maybe, cozy up to a deep-pocketed "eccentric" to do some "low-key research" and get to the bottom of it. Just engineer some quick special effects to keep the sponsor happy. You have to preach to your masses lol<br /><br />Hmmm, maybe it's the French who are really the ones behind it all. I knew GEIPAN was up to something; mwa-ha-ha ( - kidding of course) :-p )Adam S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11934830683869908953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-34235985561723128662020-01-09T20:24:04.123-05:002020-01-09T20:24:04.123-05:00The Col. is kinda like the preacher/minister that
...The Col. is kinda like the preacher/minister that<br />no one is mentioning ( and the lovely Victoria on the psychic side is the heart) ‘in the desert contact’ with gov contracts like Gordon Novel’s<br />RAM seeking 220 mil (it’s meant to be confusing).<br />Mr. Bigelow is asking for peanuts in comparison and maybe he’s ‘beyond reason’ in the hands of the Minister -what have they been doing, really ?<br />Mr. Hughes was a little nuts too.<br /><br />It’s important to recognize frauds and to recognize those who simply believe - belief in reason is still a belief - and there’s too few facts in this realm ….<br />mouseonmoon mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920006114625021133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-66813328587922687552020-01-07T22:58:02.784-05:002020-01-07T22:58:02.784-05:00Well, hence an inherent trouble with the Black Bud...Well, hence an inherent trouble with the Black Budget. Can anyone really be auditing those funds to see which projects may have a legitimate chance for success and which ones are more "fanciful", and for that matter are said people really qualified as such?<br /><br />I read Imaginary Weapons back in Graduate School and I enjoyed it, but I will say that we also need to keep in check the programs that, although they sound like something out of Star Trek, are actually operational. <br />Adam S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11934830683869908953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-62980256906837676822019-12-29T09:11:49.526-05:002019-12-29T09:11:49.526-05:00Yeah, it's looking like that's a big part ...Yeah, it's looking like that's a big part of it, PG. Maybe a competent journalist will do a long term deep dive into this (similar to Weinberger's Imaginary Weapons), but, if they don't, there's a good chance the reason would be that people who believe Bigelow and his crew sans evidence never were relying on anything more than wishful thinking in the first place. They never cared about evidence. It's truly arguing religion at this point, and those worshiping at the UFO altar aren't the least bit interested in establishing facts. <br /><br />So, even though I'd very much like to see a thorough work on what's taken place, I could understand if no one wanted to bother. People often seem to already understand the process of establishing facts or either they're not going to consider the discrepancies any deeper when they're pointed out. It's not really educational opportunities that are lacking, but the willingness to sincerely look at the circumstances. Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-23770903466012814962019-12-27T20:02:28.801-05:002019-12-27T20:02:28.801-05:00I just discovered they 77-79 Canadian TV series “...I just discovered they 77-79 Canadian TV series “Beyond Reason” - Allen Spraggett host and originator ( author , editor and newspaper columnist, former Evangelical Christian minister, and radio program host of “The Unexplained” - <br /><br />involved with and wrote about Bishop Pike, Arthur Ford, Kathryn Kulman and in 1976 “The Psychic Mafia” which was an expose explaining the way these things work from an admitted charlatan, ‘psychic medium’ Keene Lamar .<br /><br />The segments with Betty Hill, Stan Lee, Dr. Hynek and others are mind boggling.<br /><br /> There are 3 ‘paranormal ‘ experts who attempt to identify these ‘mystery guests’.<br />An astrologer is simply given the birthdate; a handwriting expert is given a sample of writing; a clairvoyant is given an object, and they are then able to make statements to the subjects,<br />and then evaluated for ‘accuracy’.<br /><br /><br />The show truly is ‘beyond reason’.<br /><br /><br />Segments are available on line at CBC archives.<br /><br />CBC Player | Famous alien abductee Betty Hill on CBC game show Beyond Reason<br /><br /><br />Foremost ufologist Dr. J. Allen Hynek illuminates Beyond Reason's psychic panel.<br /><br />CBC Player | Beyond Reason: the CBC game show with a paranormal twistmouseonmoon mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920006114625021133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-20759331606663480262019-12-27T13:35:27.855-05:002019-12-27T13:35:27.855-05:00Ah, what you mention here is just the slimy tip of...Ah, what you mention here is just the slimy tip of the government contractor iceberg. <br /><br />I worked with a few contractors in DC. There are the big thieves (e.g., Lockheed Martin, Boeing, McKesson, etc.) and then there are the little thieves, the thousands of small contractors in the DC area who cobble together careers from seemingly chump change contracts (several thousand here; several thousand there) where all they produce is a cut and paste from other sources or re-worked, recycled document. These contractors cut across all Cabinet Departments from Education and HHS to Agriculture and DOD. They produce "studies" that are never passed up to the influencers to read but get stonewalled at mid-level and are filed and forgotten.<br /><br />Government contracting has been a gravy train since WWII and Bigelow simply jumped on board. UFOs have been his contracting side scam. <br /><br />You got it right, Jack. That government money changes hands doesn't mean a project, study or its conclusions are credible. It too often can mean someone scammed the government.<br /><br /><br />purrlgurrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06519835482606629362noreply@blogger.com