tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post6577203335294371558..comments2024-02-26T03:03:24.947-05:00Comments on The UFO Trail: Suspending Judgment or Knowing: Mind Control and Alien AbductionJack Brewerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-72396904909170071922013-09-03T19:48:29.575-04:002013-09-03T19:48:29.575-04:00In my opinion, it would depend on the specific cir...In my opinion, it would depend on the specific circumstances considered. The IC, including segments of the US Air Force and CIA, were extremely interested in hypnosis. As a matter of fact, a USAF captain reportedly referred the Hills to their hypnotist:<br /><br />http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-cia-and-search-for-manchurian.html<br /><br />We have an American UFO community continuing to use hypnosis in the investigation of alleged alien abduction as was first conducted some 50 years ago. Moreover, it is the preferred investigative tool by several self-described researchers. <br /><br />Also, there is a long line of intelligence officers, including but by no means limited to CB Scott Jones, Bert Stubblebine and John Alexander, who, for whatever reasons, became staples within the UFO community. Many more conducted various activities within ufology and became regulars at events. I guess it just depends on each individual and situation as to likely purposes, but I indeed find it of interest that it occurred. Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-3538149607230701712013-09-03T14:11:10.342-04:002013-09-03T14:11:10.342-04:00Aah...perhaps 'overlap' would be a better ...Aah...perhaps 'overlap' would be a better term than "mirror"...<br /><br />Would you say this implies deliberate obfuscation by those particular IC members? Or are they merely buying into the 'hype'?<br />A little of both? Certainly there is money to be earned in contributing to the hype...caehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126263938544146422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-81924753738539570582013-09-03T12:32:57.653-04:002013-09-03T12:32:57.653-04:00"I'm not certain in what ways you mean th..."I'm not certain in what ways you mean that the 'activities of members of the intelligence community and researchers of alleged alien abduction mirror one another'...although I suppose you could say that they each represent degrees of brain washing..."<br /><br />I'd agree with that to a certain extent, along with UFO conferences often include speakers who are members of the IC - and they keep similar circles to the point the two communities seem at times to be one and the same, etc.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-9638045025041790162013-09-03T03:10:34.798-04:002013-09-03T03:10:34.798-04:00I think I've worked it out...
CIA programming...I think I've worked it out...<br /><br />CIA programming involves a combination of hypnosis and other mind altering techniques such as: administration of drugs, sensory deprivation, torture, ect...<br /><br />While civilian 'practitioners' are limited to hypnosis technique alone....<br /><br />I'm not certain in what ways you mean that the "activities of members of the intelligence community and researchers of alleged alien abduction mirror one another"...although I suppose you could say that they each represent degrees of brain washing...<br /><br /> caehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126263938544146422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-67551994343088283232013-09-02T23:47:10.684-04:002013-09-02T23:47:10.684-04:00Hi, Carol -
I don't know why we have such wid...Hi, Carol -<br /><br />I don't know why we have such wide discrepancies concerning hypnosis. Psychologist and hypnotist Martin Kline, for example, made rather extraordinary claims about his capabilities to writer/researcher John Marks:<br /><br />http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-cia-and-search-for-manchurian.html<br /><br />I do not know why. Neither can I say with any certainty why FOIA documents would be released suggesting the CIA successfully developed hypnosis techniques to lead people to carry out significant activities without memories of doing so:<br /><br />http://www.ufotrail.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-cia-and-search-for-manchurian.html<br /><br />Whatever the actual circumstances were, I find it all interesting. Among other reasons, I think the extents the activities of members of the intelligence community and researchers of alleged alien abduction mirror one another is quite intriguing. <br /><br />Thanks for your interest and comments. I am glad you appreciate and found the blog.<br /><br />JackJack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-59387764899063803402013-09-02T23:11:03.304-04:002013-09-02T23:11:03.304-04:00Hello Mr. Brewer,
I just recently stumbled upon yo...Hello Mr. Brewer,<br />I just recently stumbled upon your blog, and I must say how much I appreciate your unbiased, open-minded point of view.<br />Having read your posts on mind control and those on Leah Haley, there's something I would like to hear your views on...<br /><br />How is it that the government (CIA, MKUltra) can be so proficient in hypnosis as to be able to program people to do thing totally against their moral code (as well as forgetting everything they did), yet even the best of hypnotists (and I've been to one) in the field of Psychology can't even help me get a decent night's sleep, or lose weight?<br /><br />I mean, the thing is, at least outside the military, none of the literature suggests that hypnosis can achieve anything remotely like what is ascribed to CIA 'programming' abilities. In fact, everything I've ever heard on the subject specifically says that you cannot hypnotize a person into doing anything against their moral code or for that matter anything they seriously do not want to do.<br /><br />Why the discrepancy? Is it simply that the military must know hypnosis techniques that civilian practitioners have never learned?<br /><br />If there is anyone you can think of who might possibly be able to answer these questions, I would love it if you would pass them on and then post the answers.<br /><br />Thank you for you time!<br /><br />Carol<br /><br />caehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126263938544146422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-30107015121223145882011-08-22T18:26:23.996-04:002011-08-22T18:26:23.996-04:00Hello, Mr. Haden... Gary... please feel free to ca...Hello, Mr. Haden... Gary... please feel free to call me Jack.<br /><br />Thank you for your thoughtful and relevant comment. I appreciate both your interest and you taking the time to express your interest. I would like to share a few things with you...<br /><br />Some 20+ years ago I began interacting with MUFON personnel and members of the UFO community. It was with great interest that I attended presentations and engaged in long conversations about things that go bump in the night. Eventually and despite my virtual certainty that some kind of non-human intelligence was among us, I could not help but inventory that which I knew to be true as compared to that which I was being told was true. You will not be surprised to hear that I found a great difference between the two lists.<br /><br />As I became increasingly committed to critical thinking, I came across the work of Martin Cannon. I will not take the time or space here to go into the many related controversies, suffice it to say I was impacted by The Controllers. While I was quite familiar with various conspiracy theories related to what has now become known as abductology, it was after learning more about the Cannon saga that I first felt I could actually envision related context, feasibility and questions that demanded answers.<br /><br />As a matter of fact and the more I looked into hypotheses related to emtional trauma and the use of involuntary human research subjects, the more I became absolutely convinced that it was nothing short of negligent for self-described researchers (who supported the ETH) to not be directly addressing the subject matter.<br /><br />As I have stated, I do not claim to conclusively know if any reported alien abductions are due to covert (quite human) research projects. I do know, though, that researchers commonly know next to nothing about the subject or intentionally avoid its discussion. You are indeed correct in your implications that the narratives of self-described alien abductees and the verified symptoms of involvement in certain research projects are similar to an extent of being profoundly relevant.<br /><br />I intend to continue to explore and write about this topic, and your comments would be most welcome.Jack Brewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778028283888927074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8297935984616304783.post-22585610758347806882011-08-22T11:10:25.402-04:002011-08-22T11:10:25.402-04:00Mr. Brewer stated:
"I know mind control expe...Mr. Brewer stated:<br /><br />"I know mind control experiments happened. That is not a statement based on subjective belief or emotional preference. It is, indeed, a fact. The subsequent relevant questions and their implications to the abduction phenomenon deserve reasonable consideration."<br /><br />There isn't a clearer narrative relationship than that between the history and lore of mind control and mind control themes in alien abduction. <br /><br />Jacobsian alien-abduction narratives, for instance, parasitize off of mind control history. <br /><br />I don't know how that conclusion can be avoided.Gary Hadenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175011391189776035noreply@blogger.com